Post-Cliff Lee Deal, Pre-Trade Deadline
I woke up Friday morning to a text from a friend about Cliff Lee joining the Yankees. I then checked Twitter and read numerous updates from Buster Olney about Lee to New York. I continued to turn to all sources and grabbed the remote. I turned on the television and everything pointed towards the Yanks acquiring Lee. My heart sank. After all Lee had done for the Phillies and the city in the short span of time he spent here, I did not want him to go to the team and city that dethroned my beloved Phillies from World Series champions. I then began to type a new post about what the Yankees rotation had just become. I didn't get too far before I decided to finish at a later time. That afternoon, either talks between the Yanks and Mariners stalled or the Rangers offered a better deal and the M's backed out of New York's offer or something along those lines. What matters is that Lee didn't end up wearing pinstripes.
He's a Texas Ranger. One of Nolan Ryan's Texas Rangers. He's the Nolan Ryan type. A horse that doesn't come out of the game until he is done. Tonight, he didn't have the best outing, but I'll guarantee that he will not toe the rubber every night and give up three homeruns. He's going to give whatever team he is playing for every pitch. He's just what the Rangers need to catapult their club from contender in the AL West to possible AL pennant winner. The move by Texas changes the complexion of the American League. The Rangers, already with a cushion in the West, shouldn't have trouble conquering their division. But here are my thoughts on the rest of the American League (keep in mind a lot of team transformation can take place between now and the trade deadline).
Tampa Bay Rays
I have always thought the Rays to be somewhat pretenders. No doubt they have the talent to compete for not only a second division title in three years but even a World Series championship. Their pitching staff leads the AL in ERA anchored by David Price and Jeff Niemann. The Rays are still staying more than afloat at only two and a half games back of the Yankees in the division, even with Carlos Pena hitting a nickel over the mendoza line. It all depends on what type of move they make before the trading deadline and how the still relatively young team reacts to that move. BJ Upton rumors had been swirling while Lee was still available but have since quieted. Upton, also struggling at the plate, could be moved for a pitcher. I had counted the Rays out all year in 2008. Think I've learned my lesson? Nope. If they prove me wrong again then I might become a believer.
Detroit Tigers
Miguel Cabrera has been on a tear the whole first half. Austin Jackson and Brennan Boesch have also adjusted to the big league level well with .304 and .343 averages, respectively. But Justin Verlander has really been the only consistent starter this year for the staff and Joel Zumaya is out for the rest of the season. Then what happens if Miguel Cabrera goes into any type of funk? And what happens when other teams find weaknesses in Jackson and Boesch? Too many potential downfalls for the Tigers.
Los Angeles Angels
When the Angels walk-off win a little while back by Kendry Morales turned into a limp-off win, I thought they'd make a trade for a run producer. That didn't happen and Mike Scioscia's club has found themselves four games back in the division and even further back in the wild card, seven games. If Scott Kazmir could pitch like the Angels thought he would, it would give them a much better chance. If the Angels turn a deal for an arm and a bat, they could make a little run, but as I've stated earlier I think the AL West is the Rangers' division this season.
Chicago White Sox
This team has been hot since interleague play has started and the pitching has stepped up since Jake Peavy went down with an injury. The resurgent Alex Rios and recently announced All-Star Paul Konerko may need some help with the production though. Carlos Quentin is hitting .240 (but has been improving) and Gordon Beckham is posting a pitiful .208 average. They could still use a bat before the deadline. Adam Dunn has been rumored to be of interest by Chicago. But the Nationals aren't sure if they want to move him. If I'm Kenny Williams, I push hard for Dan Uggla or Kelly Johnson because who knows when the Red Sox, Rockies, or Phillies make a deal for one of those two. This team can hang around until the end but they may not be able to take the division if they don't grab some help.
Boston Red Sox
The only other team that is more battered and bruised than the Phillies is the Red Sox. And they've still won at least fifty games at the All-Star break. The Sox are plating the most runs per game in the AL. Offseason acquisitions Marco Scutaro and All-Star Adrian Beltre have been paying off with the injuries to Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedrioa, Victor Martinez, and Mike Cameron (another offseason addition). I assume that Theo Epstein will be able to land a bat and another starting pitcher. Whether a secondbaseman or an outfielder remains to be seen. But assuming they make a deal, I think that the nine (ahh DH, 10) taking the field every night will be able to hold down the fort until some of their wounded soldiers return.
Minnesota Twins
In a "down" season for Joe Mauer in which he is hitting .293 with only four homeruns, Justin Morneau has certainly picked up the slack. Morneau is third in the league in batting average and has driven in fifty-six runs. At four games back in the division, I don't see the Ron Gardenhire managed club worried about that quite yet. It is hard to put the Twins down because they are a scrappy club that plays the game the right way. They put together good at-bats and field the ball well. They haven't given me any reason to not favor them yet.
New York Yankees
Let's be honest. The Yanks are going to win the East. Especially now that Javier Vazquez is pitching as they had hoped. Alex Rodriguez and Mark Teixiera have seemed to found their swing again. Robinson Cano is playing like an MVP candidate. His approach at the plate is much different this year. He seems to be more patient and it has paid off for both himself and the team.
--Dan
Oh, and I'm by no means a soccer fanatic. In fact, you could even call me a United States bandwagon fan and I wouldn't be bothered. But I've really enjoyed watching the World Cup for the most part. Here's my prediction for the game tomorrow.
Netherlands 2
Spain 1
Robin van Persie is the difference.
Friday, July 9, 2010
Thursday, July 8, 2010
The Decision
As a casual NBA fan and someone who, for the most part, is genuinely annoyed by the "LeBron Watch" era of sports news, it's still hard not to speculate where James will end up. The general consensus is that it's a six-team race:
Category I: We have the cap space, but that's about it.
6. LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS
LeBron James wants to be the name of all names. He will play second fiddle to no one on this planet, which is why you can all but cross the Clips off the list. Not only would LeBron not be the center of the basketball universe on Los Angeles' other basketball team, but he wouldn't even be the main attraction of a city that breathes Kobe Bryant. Not going to happen.
5. NEW JERSEY NETS
The Brookly...excuse me, New Jersey Nets, are intriguing. With an ownership team consisting of hip-hop legend Jay-Z and a Russian billionaire who openly admits his love for the game of basketball doesn't extend nearly as far as his love for women, and lots of them, the Nets look like a dream come true for any up-and-coming star. There's just one problem: they play in New Jersey...for now, at least. You better believe that ownership wants the Nets to move to Brooklyn, and that yesterday wouldn't nearly be soon enough. For the present though, New Jersey is not a serious option for James. Proximity to New York and young players like Devin Harris and Derrick Favors are appealing, but LeBron wants to win, too. The story would be drastically different if the New Jersey Nets became the Brooklyn Somethings overnight. The King of Kings County? Possibly. But LeBron James, the pride of...Newark, New Jersey? Probably not.
Category II: Sorry, I couldn't hear you over how awesome our city is.
4. CHICAGO BULLS
The Bulls aren't far from contention. You could do worse than playing alongside the likes of Derrick Rose, Joakim Noah, and 80 million dollar newcomer Carlos Boozer. You could do worse than playing in the third largest market in the United States. You could do worse than playing in front a crowd that witnessed the Michael Jordan era...or could you? Because if the King signs the dotted line to spend the rest of his career in Chicago, rest assured the comparisons to the Airman would be nothing short of incessant. "It only took Jordan X games to do this, but it's taking LeBron X + Y." The Bulls are a real option for James, but only if he's alright with being the Second Coming of something that already transcended legendary sports lore. And I don't think he is.
3. NEW YORK KNICKS
If the city of New York had a husband, LeBron James is the equivalent of her personal trainer who has openly and intensely flirted with her for the past three years. The New York apparel, the ads in New York newspapers, even the custom shoes commemorating the Yankees 27th World Series championship are all indicative of one thing: LeBron James likes New York. Even though the amount of money James makes is absurd as it is, putting on the Knicks uniform will put his endorsement revenue through the ceiling. But as appealing as I'm sure the fame and money can be, I truly believe LeBron when he says he wants to win. And unless I'm a total sap (and I might be), he's not going to New York.
Category III: The Superteam...sort of.
2. MIAMI HEAT
Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade, and LeBron James is one hell of a trio, plain and simple. Assuming all three make the amount of money they're supposed to, the Heat will essentially be filling the rest of their roster with guys who will play for the veteran minimum. I don't consider myself a huge NBA fan. I don't claim to know the game as well as many others do. But in order to build a winner, don't you need role players off the bench? Don't you need guys that aren't even close to superstars, but make much more than the minimum? Didn't the Lakers need Derek Fisher? Didn't the Celtics need Eddie House and James Posey in 2008? I'm sure it's true that James, Bosh, and Wade would all enjoy playing together. I'm sure it's true they'd take less than the max so it wouldn't be necessary to move Michael Beasley. But as far as 'superteams' go, doesn't this one look like fool's gold? If LeBron wants to go where his chance to win multiple titles is highest, then Miami it is. But this is no 1927 Yankees team. I know the Heat would be good, very good, but would this be enough to lure LeBron away from home? My guess is no.
Category IV: The Favorite
1. CLEVELAND CAVALIERS
Michael Jordan didn't need to run away from Chicago to win six NBA titles. Kobe Bryant didn't need to run away from Los Angeles to win five. Admittedly, I don't know if LeBron cares that he'd be running away from Cleveland if he left, all I know is that he would be. So what if he goes to Miami/New York/Chicago and wins three titles in four years? He'll always be known as the superstar that needed to scamper somewhere else to get it done. What's more, is that Northeast Ohio is James' home. Don't be fooled by the glitz and glamor of New York or the hallowed basketball ground of Chicago; LeBron loves his home state. When you're so far in the black, does it really matter if Nike tosses you a few extra sheckles to put the Knicks jersey on? I don't think so, but I guess that's far easier to say when the money isn't inches away from your face. Do I think LeBron is a saint? No. Do I think he's one of the good guys? Hardly. Do I think he's completely enveloped in his own ego and self-worth? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean he doesn't want to go down in history as the greatest who ever played the game of basketball. LeBron James' best shot at immortality is to stay home and play for the Cleveland Cavaliers.
-TJ
-TJ
LeBron: Save Cleveland, Save Yourself
Why LeBron needs to stay in Cleveland and why ESPN has made it all a tired act...
Last night I received a text alert from ESPN that read "LeBron James plans to announce decision of free agency Thursday at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN." Right off the bat I thought, "you have got to be kidding me." ESPN, The Worldwide Leader in LeBron, was all over this, setting aside all and clearing way for the King.
How much of a joke has ESPN become with the NBA? Sure, there are a good handful of great NBA free agents, but most of the leading stories every morning are about Dwayne Wade in the back of a car in Chicago and which teams visited LeBron today. They push the NBA so hard because they host the NBA playoffs and finals on their own networks. FOX has baseball and the NFL while NBC and VERSUS host the NHL playoffs. The NBA playoffs were driven into viewers corneas and highlights of the NHL playoffs were kicked to the third tier of Sportscenter stories. To raise their ratings, they overhype the whole Association and its' stars (i.e James). I'm suprised they let Skip Bayless rip LeBron every 1st and 10 episode.
Other than ESPN, who crowned LeBron the greatest player ever? He's a heck of an athlete and an exceptional basketball player. I know a lot of it goes towards what the media has become with Twitter, 'round the clock coverage, etc. But there comes a point when you have to look at what he has won. Oh, nothing.
I am not trying to be too critical here, at this point in Michael Jordan's career, he had only won his first title (FYI: Jordan is the greatest ever in my opinion). But once Jordan entered the league, the Bulls never missed the playoffs while Jordan was with them for a full season, and don't forget about the six championships. LeBron and the Cavaliers missed the playoffs his first two years in the league and still haven't won anything. Even when the Cavs front office went out and got some help for LeBron, he still failed to bring a championship to the poor city of Cleveland.
That's poor in more ways than one. A city which is struggling with both their unemployment rate and their sports championship drought, needs LeBron--and LeBron needs them too.
If he goes on to walk away from the Cavs, he would break the hearts of the Cleveland fans, and leave some unfinished business behind. His job when brought to the Cavs was to win the city a championship. It seemed so fitting that LeBron was drafted to the closest NBA city to his hometown. It has been expected of LeBron to win it and if he went on, left the city this summer, and didn't finish his job in Cleveland, a lot of respect would be lost for the man.
Say LeBron were to team up with another/other top tier free agent(s) and win it all, it would not be his championship like Jordan had won his six or like Kobe Bryant had won his past two. Basketball is the only sport in which you can succeed with one superstar and a plethera of decent players. Championships in basketball can reasonably be viewed just as much as an individual feat when there is a superstar on the team rather than a team feat.
If LeBron joins Amar'e Staudemire at Madison Square Garden with the Knicks or migrates south to Miami to play with Wade and Chris Bosh and then wins a championship, he didn't do it by himself.
--Dan
image courtesy: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/21359161
Last night I received a text alert from ESPN that read "LeBron James plans to announce decision of free agency Thursday at 9 p.m. ET on ESPN." Right off the bat I thought, "you have got to be kidding me." ESPN, The Worldwide Leader in LeBron, was all over this, setting aside all and clearing way for the King.
How much of a joke has ESPN become with the NBA? Sure, there are a good handful of great NBA free agents, but most of the leading stories every morning are about Dwayne Wade in the back of a car in Chicago and which teams visited LeBron today. They push the NBA so hard because they host the NBA playoffs and finals on their own networks. FOX has baseball and the NFL while NBC and VERSUS host the NHL playoffs. The NBA playoffs were driven into viewers corneas and highlights of the NHL playoffs were kicked to the third tier of Sportscenter stories. To raise their ratings, they overhype the whole Association and its' stars (i.e James). I'm suprised they let Skip Bayless rip LeBron every 1st and 10 episode.
Other than ESPN, who crowned LeBron the greatest player ever? He's a heck of an athlete and an exceptional basketball player. I know a lot of it goes towards what the media has become with Twitter, 'round the clock coverage, etc. But there comes a point when you have to look at what he has won. Oh, nothing.
I am not trying to be too critical here, at this point in Michael Jordan's career, he had only won his first title (FYI: Jordan is the greatest ever in my opinion). But once Jordan entered the league, the Bulls never missed the playoffs while Jordan was with them for a full season, and don't forget about the six championships. LeBron and the Cavaliers missed the playoffs his first two years in the league and still haven't won anything. Even when the Cavs front office went out and got some help for LeBron, he still failed to bring a championship to the poor city of Cleveland.
That's poor in more ways than one. A city which is struggling with both their unemployment rate and their sports championship drought, needs LeBron--and LeBron needs them too.
If he goes on to walk away from the Cavs, he would break the hearts of the Cleveland fans, and leave some unfinished business behind. His job when brought to the Cavs was to win the city a championship. It seemed so fitting that LeBron was drafted to the closest NBA city to his hometown. It has been expected of LeBron to win it and if he went on, left the city this summer, and didn't finish his job in Cleveland, a lot of respect would be lost for the man.
Say LeBron were to team up with another/other top tier free agent(s) and win it all, it would not be his championship like Jordan had won his six or like Kobe Bryant had won his past two. Basketball is the only sport in which you can succeed with one superstar and a plethera of decent players. Championships in basketball can reasonably be viewed just as much as an individual feat when there is a superstar on the team rather than a team feat.
If LeBron joins Amar'e Staudemire at Madison Square Garden with the Knicks or migrates south to Miami to play with Wade and Chris Bosh and then wins a championship, he didn't do it by himself.
--Dan
image courtesy: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/21359161
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Wednesday, July 7, 2010
Starting Whineup
When Charlie Manuel was asked whether or not he was relieved this past Sunday morning after he had made his All-Star selections, he replied by reluctantly agreeing and then countering with something along the lines of, “but now the second-guessing starts.” Well Chuck, here’s a bit of defense.
Joey Votto, one of the biggest All-Star snubs in recent memory, should be a part of this game. Actually, he shouldn’t only be playing, he should be starting. Charlie Manuel has been criticized for taking “his guy” over Votto. Manuel’s guy, Ryan Howard, should be in Anaheim as well this year. Put the blame for this one partially on the players and Major League Baseball itself. The players’ ballot had elected Adrian Gonzalez, who is having the fourth best year among National League first basemen. And Major League Baseball had told both Manuel and Joe Girardi to choose a reserve for the roster that can play multiple positions as a utility man. Manuel went with the Braves’ Omar Infante, who has half the at bats as most of the All-Star starters. This ended up taking away another roster spot away from a more deserving player.
Apart from the likely situation that Charlie Manuel was taking Howard to the All-Star Game no matter what, I do have a Charlie conspiracy theory on this whole topic. It came about when Votto flipped his bat on a game tying homerun last week while the Phillies were in Cincinnati. For those who are unfamiliar with the manner of the game, flipping your bat is seen as showing up the pitcher, other team, etc. The game wasn’t even over when he did it, and then the Phillies got the best of the Reds in extra innings that night. The next day Votto crushed a ball that was way inside from Roy Halladay in the right field bleachers in a heart breaking loss for the Phils. Philadelphia went on to lose two out of three to the Reds and then lose two of three to the lowly Pittsburgh Pirates before Manuel’s decisions were made Sunday morning. Is it possible that a frustrated Charlie Manuel decided to show up the player that had showed up him and his team? The possibility is not very likely. But you never know with Manuel, he’s a one-of-a-kind person and as a Phils fan, I love the guy.
In the end, what should have happened is that Votto be named the starter, Albert Pujols would have then been voted in by the players, and the manager would have taken his guy. Fan voting is always going to put guys like Derek Jeter, Albert Pujols, and Chase Utley in the starting lineups, and if Major League Baseball wants fans to play a part in the selection process then this is basically the only way it is going to be done because having fans vote on the bench players is lame. It is a crying shame in some, if not the majority of situations. In the spirit of what should have happened, here is who should be starting this summer’s All-Star Game.
National League
Catcher
Wrong: Yadier Molina
Should be: Miguel Olivo
First Base
Wrong: Albert Pujols
Should be: Joey Votto
Second Base
Wrong: Chase Utley
Should be (and is): Martin Prado (who will be starting due to Utley’s injury)
Shortstop
Correct: Hanley Ramirez
Third Base
Correct: David Wright
Outfield
Correct: Andre Ethier
Correct: Ryan Braun
Wrong: Jason Heyward
Should be: Corey Hart
American League
Catcher
Correct: Joe Mauer
First Base
Wrong: Justin Morneau (tough one)
Should be: Miguel Cabrera
Second Base
Correct: Robinson Cano
Shortstop
Correct: Derek Jeter
Third Base
Correct: Evan Longoria (although it was very close with Adrian Beltre)
Outfield
Correct: Josh Hamilton
Correct: Ichiro Suzuki
Correct: Carl Crawford
Designated Hitter
Correct: Vlad Guerrero
The fans were right on the money for the American League (eight for nine) but in the National League, they only provided the NL lineup with half of who deserved the starting spots.
One of the newly instituted rules for the All-Star Game is that, regardless of the whether the game is in a NL or AL stadium, there will always be a designated hitter in use. Charlie Manuel gets to choose from Adrian Gonzalez, Ryan Howard, Scott Rolen, Corey Hart, Matt Holliday and some others for that starting spot. This spot should definitely go to Corey Hart, especially with the production numbers that he is posting this season. However, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Manuel stuck Howard in that spot.
In last year’s All-Star Game in St. Louis, Manuel showed some favor to his players by starting Shane Victorino when Carlos Beltran went down and adding Jayson Werth to the team after the rosters were announced. I was slightly surprised to see only three Phillies on this year’s roster. Manuel realizes that not many on his team are playing at an All-Star level.
Another snub for this year’s All-Star Game is Braves’ closer Billy Wagner. Instead of Wagner, Manuel brought Reds’ lefty specialist Arthur Rhodes. Rhodes is having a phenomenal season but this is Wagner’s last year (or so he says) and to go along with the miniscule earned run average, he actually earns the saves for his team. However, due to the perception that Wagner’s career in Philadelphia ended on a sour note, I wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie didn’t take Wagner for the way things ended. He had said that the Phillies had no chance to make the playoffs while he was still on the team in 2005. It was a small mess and Phillies players called out and confronted Wagner and he will never be appreciated in the city of Philadelphia. Thatta boy Chuck.
--Dan
Joey Votto, one of the biggest All-Star snubs in recent memory, should be a part of this game. Actually, he shouldn’t only be playing, he should be starting. Charlie Manuel has been criticized for taking “his guy” over Votto. Manuel’s guy, Ryan Howard, should be in Anaheim as well this year. Put the blame for this one partially on the players and Major League Baseball itself. The players’ ballot had elected Adrian Gonzalez, who is having the fourth best year among National League first basemen. And Major League Baseball had told both Manuel and Joe Girardi to choose a reserve for the roster that can play multiple positions as a utility man. Manuel went with the Braves’ Omar Infante, who has half the at bats as most of the All-Star starters. This ended up taking away another roster spot away from a more deserving player.
Apart from the likely situation that Charlie Manuel was taking Howard to the All-Star Game no matter what, I do have a Charlie conspiracy theory on this whole topic. It came about when Votto flipped his bat on a game tying homerun last week while the Phillies were in Cincinnati. For those who are unfamiliar with the manner of the game, flipping your bat is seen as showing up the pitcher, other team, etc. The game wasn’t even over when he did it, and then the Phillies got the best of the Reds in extra innings that night. The next day Votto crushed a ball that was way inside from Roy Halladay in the right field bleachers in a heart breaking loss for the Phils. Philadelphia went on to lose two out of three to the Reds and then lose two of three to the lowly Pittsburgh Pirates before Manuel’s decisions were made Sunday morning. Is it possible that a frustrated Charlie Manuel decided to show up the player that had showed up him and his team? The possibility is not very likely. But you never know with Manuel, he’s a one-of-a-kind person and as a Phils fan, I love the guy.
In the end, what should have happened is that Votto be named the starter, Albert Pujols would have then been voted in by the players, and the manager would have taken his guy. Fan voting is always going to put guys like Derek Jeter, Albert Pujols, and Chase Utley in the starting lineups, and if Major League Baseball wants fans to play a part in the selection process then this is basically the only way it is going to be done because having fans vote on the bench players is lame. It is a crying shame in some, if not the majority of situations. In the spirit of what should have happened, here is who should be starting this summer’s All-Star Game.
National League
Catcher
Wrong: Yadier Molina
Should be: Miguel Olivo
First Base
Wrong: Albert Pujols
Should be: Joey Votto
Second Base
Wrong: Chase Utley
Should be (and is): Martin Prado (who will be starting due to Utley’s injury)
Shortstop
Correct: Hanley Ramirez
Third Base
Correct: David Wright
Outfield
Correct: Andre Ethier
Correct: Ryan Braun
Wrong: Jason Heyward
Should be: Corey Hart
American League
Catcher
Correct: Joe Mauer
First Base
Wrong: Justin Morneau (tough one)
Should be: Miguel Cabrera
Second Base
Correct: Robinson Cano
Shortstop
Correct: Derek Jeter
Third Base
Correct: Evan Longoria (although it was very close with Adrian Beltre)
Outfield
Correct: Josh Hamilton
Correct: Ichiro Suzuki
Correct: Carl Crawford
Designated Hitter
Correct: Vlad Guerrero
The fans were right on the money for the American League (eight for nine) but in the National League, they only provided the NL lineup with half of who deserved the starting spots.
One of the newly instituted rules for the All-Star Game is that, regardless of the whether the game is in a NL or AL stadium, there will always be a designated hitter in use. Charlie Manuel gets to choose from Adrian Gonzalez, Ryan Howard, Scott Rolen, Corey Hart, Matt Holliday and some others for that starting spot. This spot should definitely go to Corey Hart, especially with the production numbers that he is posting this season. However, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Manuel stuck Howard in that spot.
In last year’s All-Star Game in St. Louis, Manuel showed some favor to his players by starting Shane Victorino when Carlos Beltran went down and adding Jayson Werth to the team after the rosters were announced. I was slightly surprised to see only three Phillies on this year’s roster. Manuel realizes that not many on his team are playing at an All-Star level.
Another snub for this year’s All-Star Game is Braves’ closer Billy Wagner. Instead of Wagner, Manuel brought Reds’ lefty specialist Arthur Rhodes. Rhodes is having a phenomenal season but this is Wagner’s last year (or so he says) and to go along with the miniscule earned run average, he actually earns the saves for his team. However, due to the perception that Wagner’s career in Philadelphia ended on a sour note, I wouldn’t be surprised if Charlie didn’t take Wagner for the way things ended. He had said that the Phillies had no chance to make the playoffs while he was still on the team in 2005. It was a small mess and Phillies players called out and confronted Wagner and he will never be appreciated in the city of Philadelphia. Thatta boy Chuck.
--Dan
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